Defining cremini mushrooms

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Cottage pie using from the freezer leftover beef roast and marinade/cooking liquid from when I used the sous vide. Carrots, criminis, onions, and garlic were the veges, with a mashed potato topping. No pics, I was starved.
Criminis..? 🤔
 
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Ahh... just Googled them. They are what over we know as Portobello mushrooms. Thanks.

Well, not exactly. The Cremini mushroom is a younger version of a Portabello. The Cremini is smaller. They look different, but taste is similar. They are both more mature versions of the white button mushroom (I didn't know that until I searched for a picture to post). The Cremini and Portabello are sold as separate things in the US. Here are the three side by side.

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Thank you. Criminis were on my 'to research' list from a grocery post here not long ago, had not found the time to google them out.👍 I love the amazing learning curve through the forum.
The difference is age apparently... Portobello mushrooms are more mature criminis. which are themselves a more mature white mushroom (or button mushroom).
 
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Yes, I have too, but not usually. I don't know the history behind that. Marketing? Regional thing?

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Maybe a bit of both? Years ago, I might not have given it a second glance if I saw a sign that said "criminins". But, baby bellas? Bella = beautiful (and even if you didn't know that, it sounds prettier than "cremini"). Who wouldn't want to see beautiful babies? It sounds adorable.
 

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I usually see creminis sold as "baby bella" (baby portabella) mushrooms:
So we have baby Porto
I usually see creminis sold as "baby bella" (baby portabella) mushrooms:

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So we have baby Portobello mushrooms here... we eat them regularly. I just haven't seen them called creminis. Actually before today I didn't know about age being the only difference between button mushrooms and any type of Portobello mushroom.

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I'm pretty sure the white versus brown mushrooms is NOT an age thing. They are simply differnt strains of the same mushroom. Think about it. You've seen HUGE white mushrooms that are used for stuffing (they sell these in separate packaging in our area groceries) and you've seen tiny brown mushrooms (criminis or baby bellas). If it's an age thing, how would you explain the size range?
 

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I'm pretty sure the white versus brown mushrooms is NOT an age thing. They are simply differnt strains of the same mushroom. Think about it. You've seen HUGE white mushrooms that are used for stuffing (they sell these in separate packaging in our area groceries) and you've seen tiny brown mushrooms (criminis or baby bellas). If it's an age thing, how would you explain the size range?
Just one of the articles I've seen today...

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Complete Guide To Cremini Mushrooms - GroCycle
 

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And I found these

Varieties & Taste - Mushrooms Canada

What's the Difference Between White, Baby Bella, and Portabella Mushrooms?

(PDF) Challenging the difference between white and brown Agaricus bisporus mushrooms: Science behind consumers choice

Guide to mushrooms - Healthy Food Guide

Types of Mushroom

It's not logical to assume that it's an age difference since you get very tiny to very large mushrooms of both colors. If white was the immature form, you would ONLY have tiny to small white mushrooms, and would ONLY find medium to large browns, and you don't. There are tiny to very large forms of both colors. Yes, I'll agree that the small browns that are called crimini or baby bellas are the immature form of a portabello, but the whites are just a different color and not an immature form.

And I see a new thread coming up courtesy of Morning Glory .
 

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And I found these

Varieties & Taste - Mushrooms Canada

What's the Difference Between White, Baby Bella, and Portabella Mushrooms?

(PDF) Challenging the difference between white and brown Agaricus bisporus mushrooms: Science behind consumers choice

Guide to mushrooms - Healthy Food Guide

Types of Mushroom

It's not logical to assume that it's an age difference since you get very tiny to very large mushrooms of both colors. If white was the immature form, you would ONLY have tiny to small white mushrooms, and would ONLY find medium to large browns, and you don't. There are tiny to very large forms of both colors. Yes, I'll agree that the small browns that are called crimini or baby bellas are the immature form of a portabello, but the whites are just a different color and not an immature form.

And I see a new thread coming up courtesy of Morning Glory .
Nothing I'm assuming... Facts from various sources.
 
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