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Does there exist a type of mason jar that doesn't rust? I like using them, but every time I do, when I wash them, even if I dry them immediately, they always seem to rust, and it's especially bad when they are in use in the fridge, and it makes the lids a pain in the ass to get off. Do they have like anti-rust versions or something?
 
Puggles said:
Does there exist a type of mason jar that doesn't rust? I like using them, but every time I do, when I wash them, even if I dry them immediately, they always seem to rust, and it's especially bad when they are in use in the fridge, and it makes the lids a pain in the ass to get off. Do they have like anti-rust versions or something?
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They make plastic reusable gaskets and flats, Tattler brand is one, but the screw part ring I only know as ever being metal. Being metal and not being stainless pretty much means it'll deteriorate.
 
Amazon - Stainless wide mouth/regular mouth

Ball Jar Stainless Steel One-Piece Mason Jar Lids, Wide Mouth, 6-Pack,Silver

Stainless Steel Mason Jar Lids, Storage Caps with Silicone Seals for Regular Mouth Size Jars, Polished Surface, Reusable and Leak Proof, Pack of 12 (12-Pack Regular Mouth stainless steel)

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SandwichShortOfAPicnic said:
My kilner jars don’t rust, they get the full treatment - fridge, freezer and dishwasher and I’ve never had a problem.
Are the jars old?
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I just looked and on the Kilner website those lids are tin. Ball, a favored brand in the US, lids are tin plated steel. So, given the outside of the lids are the same and yours are okay perhaps Puggles has a process or component oops in the washing phase?

According to the search bot at DDG tin doesn't rust so that's likely not happening; must be another reaction.

Rusting and Tin
Understanding Rust
Rust is a type of corrosion that occurs when iron or its alloys react with oxygen and moisture, forming iron oxide. This process weakens the metal and can lead to structural failure.

Tin's Properties
Chemical Stability: Tin does not rust because it does not easily react with oxygen in the air. Instead, it forms a protective oxide layer (tin oxide) that prevents further corrosion.
Corrosion Resistance: Tin is considered fairly resistant to corrosion. It can withstand exposure to moisture and various environmental conditions without deteriorating.
Tin in Applications
Tinplate: Tin is often used to coat steel (tinplate) to enhance its corrosion resistance. This is common in food packaging, where tin cans are used to preserve food and prevent rust.
Alloys: Tin is also used in various alloys, such as bronze and pewter, which benefit from its anti-corrosive properties.
Conclusion
Tin does not rust like iron or steel. Its ability to form a protective oxide layer makes it a valuable material in applications requiring corrosion resistance.
 
Barriehie said:
I just looked and on the Kilner website those lids are tin. Ball, a favored brand in the US, lids are tin plated steel. So, given the outside of the lids are the same and yours are okay perhaps Puggles has a process or component oops in the washing phase?

According to the search bot at DDG tin doesn't rust so that's likely not happening; must be another reaction.

Rusting and Tin
Understanding Rust
Rust is a type of corrosion that occurs when iron or its alloys react with oxygen and moisture, forming iron oxide. This process weakens the metal and can lead to structural failure.

Tin's Properties
Chemical Stability: Tin does not rust because it does not easily react with oxygen in the air. Instead, it forms a protective oxide layer (tin oxide) that prevents further corrosion.
Corrosion Resistance: Tin is considered fairly resistant to corrosion. It can withstand exposure to moisture and various environmental conditions without deteriorating.
Tin in Applications
Tinplate: Tin is often used to coat steel (tinplate) to enhance its corrosion resistance. This is common in food packaging, where tin cans are used to preserve food and prevent rust.
Alloys: Tin is also used in various alloys, such as bronze and pewter, which benefit from its anti-corrosive properties.
Conclusion
Tin does not rust like iron or steel. Its ability to form a protective oxide layer makes it a valuable material in applications requiring corrosion resistance.
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A mine are glass tops

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SandwichShortOfAPicnic said:
A mine are glass tops

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I think Puggles has the screw on ones, you know the ring and the plate. Can you use those, your clamp type, in a pressure canner or a submerged water bath???

Edit: I can see using them in a pressure canner since the lids stay above water level but don't see a means for submerging them in a water bath?
 
Barriehie said:
I think Puggles has the screw on ones, you know the ring and the plate. Can you use those, your clamp type, in a pressure canner or a submerged water bath???

Edit: I can see using them in a pressure canner since the lids stay above water level but don't see a means for submerging them in a water bath?
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They can be submerged for water bath canning but not pressure canning.
Not that I’ve done it. I mainly use them for sauces, pickles, pate etc of the fresh variety.
Kilner jars were invented in the 1840’s and are part of the furniture here. The clip top jars been the top choice for giving food gifts and they’re what you’ll always see used in British food progs.
 
Puggles said:
Does there exist a type of mason jar that doesn't rust? I like using them, but every time I do, when I wash them, even if I dry them immediately, they always seem to rust, and it's especially bad when they are in use in the fridge, and it makes the lids a pain in the ass to get off. Do they have like anti-rust versions or something?
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I just buy new rings when they rust. They aren't very expensive. I know it's kind of wasteful, but...

You are supposed to use the lids only once anyway if you put them through a canning process, as they might not properly seal otherwise. I do reuse lids if I use them for something like salad dressing.
 
SandwichShortOfAPicnic said:
They can be submerged for water bath canning but not pressure canning.
Not that I’ve done it. I mainly use them for sauces, pickles, pate etc of the fresh variety.
Kilner jars were invented in the 1840’s and are part of the furniture here. The clip top jars been the top choice for giving food gifts and they’re what you’ll always see used in British food progs.
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I've got a few of those. Hmm, since they're more expensive than the screw lid ones and can't do both forms of canning I think I'll stick to the screw ones for preserving. I only use mine for cupboard storage.
 
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