Pies of all kinds

[TastyReuben]

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Scotch pies have pastry, sides, bottoms and tops so different from a pot pie I think? That is why TheSoloChef used springform tins.

Our pot pies have all the crust all the way round and over and under and all that.

 

[Morning Glory]

Our pot pies have all the crust all the way round and over and under and all that.

Oh! When I look it up it says pot pies are top crust only. When you say 'our'...

 

[TastyReuben]

Oh! When I look it up it says pot pies are top crust only. When you say 'our'...

“Our,” meaning what we have here in the US:

That’s a typical pot pie sold here, from the frozen foods section.

 

[karadekoolaid]

A "classic" British chicken and leek pie, for example, would only have pastry on the top.
And yet... a classic Mowbray pork pie is completely covered in pastry.
So who knows?

 

[JAS_OH1]

“Our,” meaning what we have here in the US:

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That’s a typical pot pie sold here, from the frozen foods section.

Yes! But there are some sad and inferior ones with no bottoms. Pffft.

 

[Morning Glory]

“Our,” meaning what we have here in the US:

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That’s a typical pot pie sold here, from the frozen foods section.

I think I've seen American cooking programmes which show lid only which is why I thought that was what pot pie meant. Like a pot with a lid on it! Why not just call it a pie otherwise? I mean you do have things just called pies don't you - like apple pie or pumpkin pie. Sorry if I sound pedantic. I'm interested in the etymology in relation to use of the word 'pot'.

 

[TastyReuben]

Why not just call it a pie otherwise?

Here, by and large, “pie” with no other descriptor would mean a dessert pie.

 

[Morning Glory]

Here, by and large, “pie” with no other descriptor would mean a dessert pie.

OK.

 

[karadekoolaid]

We've got some unusual pies that are served with no pastry: Shepherd's Pie (minced lamb) and Cottage Pie (minced beef); Fish pie ( white and smoked fish in a white sauce; all topped with mashed potato.
Then there's Banoffee Pie (caramel, bananas and cream) which is more a tart than a pie.

 

[JAS_OH1]

We've got some unusual pies that are served with no pastry: Shepherd's Pie (minced lamb) and Cottage Pie (minced beef); Fish pie ( white and smoked fish in a white sauce; all topped with mashed potato.
Then there's Banoffee Pie (caramel, bananas and cream) which is more a tart than a pie.

Shepherds pie and cottage pie are not uncommon in the US. Fish pie is.

 

[karadekoolaid]

Fish pie is.

Yep - only in the UK, I think. Fish consumption per capita in the US and the UK is far lower than I thought. In the US it's 22 kgs per person per year, and in the UK, 18. In contrast, the Portuguese consume around 59 kilos, and the Japanese, 46.

 

[JAS_OH1]

Yep - only in the UK, I think. Fish consumption per capita in the US and the UK is far lower than I thought. In the US it's 22 kgs per person per year, and in the UK, 18. In contrast, the Portuguese consume around 59 kilos, and the Japanese, 46.

I'd like to move to Portugal!

In the US I'm sure it's regionally conditional, as in coastal communities fish consumption is much higher than in landlocked states. When I lived in Florida I ate seafood 4-5 times a week. There were times I ate it every day for a month or more. I liked fishing and scuba diving to spear fish so if I had a lot of fish in my freezer that's what I was eating.

I've made seafood quiche but never had fish pie. Probably British folks who moved to the US made it but I was unaware of it.

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

I also wondered why pot pie wasn’t just called pie.
We’re the other way around a pie would be assumed to be savoury unless you put a descriptive word before it like ‘apple’ pie.

My GP surgery is in a road called ‘Pudding Pie Lane’
Somersets so flippin old no-one knows why