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I used to have two pythons and various smaller snakes (garter snakes and the like). The pythons had eggs but nothing came of them owing to some idiot visitor we had turning off the heater instead of the TV at the plug one winter night. Both pythons used to be let out in the evenings. The male python hated my daughter for some reason and used to pounce on her every opportunity but neither of them used to mind the cats too much. probably because they were well-fed. I also had five iguanas who often got loose. The baby used to climb up the curtains and peer at us over the curtain rail. The biggest one was huge and could be a force to be reckoned with. They used to live under the stairs, and the easiest way to get them all to go in was to bring our harris hawk into the house.
 

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Snakes are not poisonous, they are venomous. Animals, including insects are venomous, except for toxins like those produced by toads and frogs, which are ingested as opposed to being injected.
 

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Thanks CraigC you told me more than I ever learnt in 63 years, as I've said we are snake free, so I'm ok with non venomous, but wary of poisonous ones. I've had pythons around my neck in photo touristy places, Brisbane and bangkok. They never bothered me. Wife would not get a pic,lol.
I've bred German shepherds and racehorses, but I would never think of breeding snakes? I guess if there's a buck in it, I would try,lol.
Sea snakes scare me, after watching that movie in the Amazon???

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Considering that the Amazon Basins sold for $1000.00 to the sky is the limit, depending on pattern and quantity of white. This girl has the full package, Full dorsal stripe, cross marks and diamonds. We purchased her for $2500.00 as a neonate, along with an unrelated male at the same price.

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Considering that the Amazon Basins sold for $1000.00 to the sky is the limit, depending on pattern and quantity of white. This girl has the full package, Full dorsal stripe, cross marks and diamonds. We purchased her for $2500.00 as a neonate, along with an unrelated male at the same price.

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Lovely! How long would you expect her to live?
 

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Considering that the Amazon Basins sold for $1000.00 to the sky is the limit, depending on pattern and quantity of white. This girl has the full package, Full dorsal stripe, cross marks and diamonds. We purchased her for $2500.00 as a neonate, along with an unrelated male at the same price.

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Beautiful. I can see why you love them. $$$$ I might look at a breeding programme,lol.

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Beautiful. I can see why you love them. $$$$ I might look at a breeding programme,lol.

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Good luck, unless you know an importer that brings them into NZ, you are dealing with a CITES species. Brazil has closed the exporting of their native wildlife, so getting Amazon Basins is out. Australia has done the same thing.
 

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Good luck, unless you know an importer that brings them into NZ, you are dealing with a CITES species. Brazil has closed the exporting of their native wildlife, so getting Amazon Basins is out. Australia has done the same thing.

There's no way they would be allowed into nz. We had trouble about 10 years ago with people coming to nz and catching rare parrots and skinks etc for collectors. They were caught at the border. From memory they were jailed, I think that stopped it.

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CraigC Thank you so much for this thread.
My thought is that fear of snakes is either from ignorance or unpleasant experiences.
As a child-6 or 7 - I was picking blackberries along a fence line - bare feet. I stepped on something kind of soft. I looked down. My foot was just behind the head of a HUGE black snake (in my little eyes). At the time we lived in the country- closest neighbor a 1/4 of a mile. They heard my screams.
Dad searched the fence line and found a rat snake.
Venomous or non venomous - I did not care
I was terrified of snakes.
To make matters worse one of my brothers found a copper head skin. The little twerp coiled the skin around my shoes. The next morning I was getting ready for school, reached into my closet for shoes and encountered a snake skin
Even from inside the house neighbors heard me scream .
I was 11 or 12 at the time.
So - big time snake phobia. I could not even look at pictures of snakes without getting the hebegies. Creeped me out.
I love zoos but always avoided the reptile house. Did not want to see snakes.
Met G in '82
We went to the zoo in NOLA. I did not want G to know what a woos I was so I went with him to the reptile house. My heart was pounding and I was in a cold sweat. My palms were sweating. I had a killer grip on his arm. I was on the edge of a panic attack. All I could think of was that I am in love with this man. Deep breaths. Inhale exhale. He took my hand off of his arm and put his arm around me. Kissed me on the cheek and said "I love you. I am here for you. " My love. No more panic, no more anxiety.
I was able to walk through the reptile house and appreciate the beautiful creatures
I vowed to myself that I would learn about snakes. I vowed to myself to overcome my fear.
From '97 to '04 I had a landscaping business . one of my favorite clients lived on 4 acres bordering the river. There was a resident green ribbon snake, frequently black water snakes. My concern was coming across a cotton mouth. The thing about a cotton mouth is that you will smell it before you see it. Never saw a cotton mouth. I did encounter and kill a three foot copperhead. :hyper:
I wet my pants. Not kidding.
Back to the fear factor.
I no longer fear snakes. I respect them
I can identify venomous snakes indigenous to my region .
In the wild I appreciate their beauty and leave them alone. I sometimes find non venomous snakes in the yard. Not a problem. If I find a venomous snake in the yard it is bye bye baby.
I have gotten over my unreasonable fear. I have respect and appreciation of snakes. They are beautiful creatures
 

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CraigC Thank you so much for this thread.
My thought is that fear of snakes is either from ignorance or unpleasant experiences.
As a child-6 or 7 - I was picking blackberries along a fence line - bare feet. I stepped on something kind of soft. I looked down. My foot was just behind the head of a HUGE black snake (in my little eyes). At the time we lived in the country- closest neighbor a 1/4 of a mile. They heard my screams.
Dad searched the fence line and found a rat snake.
Venomous or non venomous - I did not care
I was terrified of snakes.
To make matters worse one of my brothers found a copper head skin. The little twerp coiled the skin around my shoes. The next morning I was getting ready for school, reached into my closet for shoes and encountered a snake skin
Even from inside the house neighbors heard me scream .
I was 11 or 12 at the time.
So - big time snake phobia. I could not even look at pictures of snakes without getting the hebegies. Creeped me out.
I love zoos but always avoided the reptile house. Did not want to see snakes.
Met G in '82
We went to the zoo in NOLA. I did not want G to know what a woos I was so I went with him to the reptile house. My heart was pounding and I was in a cold sweat. My palms were sweating. I had a killer grip on his arm. I was on the edge of a panic attack. All I could think of was that I am in love with this man. Deep breaths. Inhale exhale. He took my hand off of his arm and put his arm around me. Kissed me on the cheek and said "I love you. I am here for you. " My love. No more panic, no more anxiety.
I was able to walk through the reptile house and appreciate the beautiful creatures
I vowed to myself that I would learn about snakes. I vowed to myself to overcome my fear.
From '97 to '04 I had a landscaping business . one of my favorite clients lived on 4 acres bordering the river. There was a resident green ribbon snake, frequently black water snakes. My concern was coming across a cotton mouth. The thing about a cotton mouth is that you will smell it before you see it. Never saw a cotton mouth. I did encounter and kill a three foot copperhead. :hyper:
I wet my pants. Not kidding.
Back to the fear factor.
I no longer fear snakes. I respect them
I can identify venomous snakes indigenous to my region .
In the wild I appreciate their beauty and leave them alone. I sometimes find non venomous snakes in the yard. Not a problem. If I find a venomous snake in the yard it is bye bye baby.
I have gotten over my unreasonable fear. I have respect and appreciation of snakes. They are beautiful creatures

I'm sorry, I don't abide by killing snakes, venomous or not. I once had a large collection of crotalids (rattlesnakes) when I was in my early 20's.
 

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Thanks so much for this thread Craig. You have some gorgeous creatures.
When I was growing up my mum was heavily involved in wildlife rescue & rehabilitation which included a number of snakes, including the venomous kind. Most were relocated but we ended up with some that couldn't be released. The favourite was Cedric, a 6.5" diamond python who was so placid he went on tv shows😃
Here in Aus we have so many venomous snakes it's nearly a national pastime to kill them so it's a real pleasure to see yours & your enjoyment of them. That pic of the neonates is fascinating
 
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