Guilty pleasures

[JAS_OH1]

I do. Remember the kettle cooking thread? At the same time I did flask food, I dehydrated loads of veggies and vacuum sealed them with rice noodles. They were all my own ‘pot noodles’

But I’ll be honest before going wandering for a few weeks you really have an awful lot to sort out and back up emergency pannier food (that may not get eaten) isn’t that high on the priority list.

Don’t think I reported those results but they were tastier better than a normal pot noodle.

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Why don't you make some well ahead of time so you have them on hand?

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

Why don't you make some well ahead of time so you have them on hand?

Yes I should, I suppose in my mind I’m more normal dietary wise than I am in reality.
In my head I’ll just ruck up somewhere, have fantastic street food and eat whatever’s available.
But what actually happens is getting sick halfway through a trip really sucks, riding a mobike with bad guts is awful so I become even more cautious than normal

Hmm maybe this conversation will be the proverbial boot

 

[JAS_OH1]

Yes I should, I suppose in my mind I’m more normal dietary wise than I am in reality.
In my head I’ll just ruck up somewhere, have fantastic street food and eat whatever’s available.
But what actually happens is getting sick halfway through a trip really sucks, riding a mobike with bad guts is awful so I become even more cautious than normal

Hmm maybe this conversation will be the proverbial boot

It's bad enough that what you are eating has gulten or dairy in it that will make you sick, but street food (or food in a restaurant, for that matter) can make you sick without it--depending on the hygiene of the person making it (or food prepared by someone who has something highly contagious that is both airborne and spread from touching things, like norovirus). All it takes is a few pathogens and you might be down for a couple of days. Yes I know you know all this after being in the healthcare profession for so long...just a reminder you might want to stick with your own tasty vittles as much as possible.

Which brings to mind that when my late MIL was very ill and in hospital last summer, there was a food truck outside of the hospital after the inside food venues were closed. My DH and I went down and the BBQ smelled amazing, but while we waited in line, I noticed the workers were handling credit cards and money, then preparing food without gloves. Yeah they used tongs to handle the hot meat, but they were touching the buns for the sandwiches and the sauce bottles without gloves on and no handwashing was going on. I had a bag of chips.

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

It's bad enough that what you are eating has gulten or dairy in it that will make you sick, but street food (or food in a restaurant, for that matter) can make you sick without it--depending on the hygiene of the person making it (or food prepared by someone who has something highly contagious that is both airborne and spread from touching things, like norovirus). All it takes is a few pathogens and you might be down for a couple of days. Yes I know you know all this after being in the healthcare profession for so long...just a reminder you might want to stick with your own tasty vittles as much as possible.

Which brings to mind that when my late MIL was very ill and in hospital last summer, there was a food truck outside of the hospital after the inside food venues were closed. My DH and I went down and the BBQ smelled amazing, but while we waited in line, I noticed the workers were handling credit cards and money, then preparing food without gloves. Yeah they used tongs to handle the hot meat, but they were touching the buns for the sandwiches and the sauce bottles without gloves on and no handwashing was going on. I had a bag of chips.

Yes as you say I’m horribly aware about microbiology and cross infection.
Bacterial infections are surprisingly rare with food because we are mucous lined from tongue to err.. the other end but some things can penetrate that membrane and some things break all the rules.

America and Spain seem to be particularly susceptible.
Dipping a chicken in a chlorine wash doesn’t seem to equate with good food hygiene

Bacteria is so interesting in the way it multiplies and spreads. It has some very consistent rules but once it’s through them then BOOM

Personally I operate a three hour, three day policy. If it’s in the fridge within 3 hours then thats fine it can stay 3 days.
But thats my outside. I like things to be fridged and frozen well inside that time limit.

 

[JAS_OH1]

Yes as you say I’m horribly aware about microbiology and cross infection.
Bacterial infections are surprisingly rare with food because we are mucous lined from tongue to err.. the other end but some things can penetrate that membrane and some things break all the rules.

Yeah I've gotten sick from eating salads at restaurants a couple of times many years ago, which is why I like open kitchens where I can see what's going on (though I still don't usually eat salads from restaurants these days). My DH got sick from salmonella from a restaurant when he was vacationing in the Bahamas in his 20s. He had a conch salad and he was pretty sure it was from cross contamination in the kitchen.

America and Spain seem to be particularly susceptible.
Dipping a chicken in a chlorine wash doesn’t seem to equate with good food hygiene

Bacteria is so interesting in the way it multiplies and spreads. It has some very consistent rules but once it’s through them then BOOM

Personally I operate a three hour, three day policy. If it’s in the fridge within 3 hours then thats fine it can stay 3 days.
But thats my outside. I like things to be fridged and frozen well inside that time limit.

I am much more relaxed about that sort of thing in my refrigerator. I keep it at a very cold level and I have one spot in my frige where if I put a bottle of water there, it has ice in it and is nearly frozen after a day or so. I will go up to 5 days in the frige depending on what it is (never seafood). I think most people who are getting sick from food at home have left it out at room temperature for far too long (like at the holidays) and are going back for seconds maybe an hour or two after the food (turkey, stuffing, etc.) was initially set out. But the FDA recommends no more than 3 days and most people tend to follow that rule. I have never gotten sick from eating leftover food at home so far.

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

Yeah I've gotten sick from eating salads at restaurants a couple of times many years ago, which is why I like open kitchens where I can see what's going on (though I still don't usually eat salads from restaurants these days). My DH got sick from salmonella from a restaurant when he was vacationing in the Bahamas in his 20s. He had a conch salad and he was pretty sure it was from cross contamination in the kitchen.

I am much more relaxed about that sort of thing in my refrigerator. I keep it at a very cold level and I have one spot in my frige where if I put a bottle of water there, it has ice in it and is nearly frozen after a day or so. I will go up to 5 days in the frige depending on what it is (never seafood). I think most people who are getting sick from food at home have left it out at room temperature for far too long (like at the holidays) and are going back for seconds maybe an hour or two after the food (turkey, stuffing, etc.) was initially set out. But the FDA recommends no more than 3 days and most people tend to follow that rule. I have never gotten sick from eating leftover food at home so far.

Me neither.
But I think our rules are aimed at the lowest common denominator.
You have to take care or the ups and downs of temperature control (I know you know what I mean here) and then there is a tiny little space for manoeuvre.

Salads however are almost always on my NO thanks list.
In other counties I understand the water shortages may well affect the watering (certainly I ate no salad in Nepal ) and yet my compadres have parasitic infections

 

[badjak]

I think I trained my intestines and stomach properly by living in India for a year
I eat street food without a problem
It's actually one of the absolute joys of visisting countries in SE Asia

 

[JAS_OH1]

I think I trained my intestines and stomach properly by living in India for a year
I eat street food without a problem
It's actually one of the absolute joys of visisting countries in SE Asia

My older sister has a good constitution like that. She never got sick from food. It was bugs that got her (tumba fly maggots hatched in her back under the skin once and another time she got dengue fever).

 

[badjak]

My older sister has a good constitution like that. She never got sick from food. It was bugs that got her (tumba fly maggots hatched in her back under the skin once and another time she got dengue fever).

Yep, got a scar on my shoulder from a putsi fly (tumba fly)
I've had malaria.
I have had food poisoning. Quite severe, but ever since, I seem to be able to deal with anything.
As I said, I was in India and the staff I worked with put money together to buy me a coffee and something to eat as a treat.
They had never done that for anyone else.
I did know there was a good chance of getting sick, but I ate it all.

Yes, got very sick, got better and never had any issues anymore

 

[karadekoolaid]

Yes, got very sick, got better and never had any issues anymore

I don't know why, but that's sort of what my grandma used to say. Builds up antibodies, luv.
I can't say whether that's just an urban myth, but I eat street food here, have had dengue fever twice, food poisoning twice and am just fine. Nothing like street food in India, mind you!

 

[TheSoloChef]

Bit shocked to see 'only' £1.49 on the side. That's inflation for you. They were £1.20 not that long ago, but Tesco/Sainsburys alternate in having offers and I think last year I picked up loads for 65p and brought them back here.

Fortunately I am a member of the Company Shop so got 6 of them with 2 months left on the best before date for 45p each