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Silence as far as I know
How is the corona virus affecting you?
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I didn't know that expression, 'crickets'!Maybe news coverage is better in the UK. I've seen the point made about T and B cells made several times here, by virologists on TV news programmes.
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A big difference on your side of the pond in general and in Europe is the way gov'ts have rolled out information. some have been very transparent and some more than others no doubt. One of the main issues, trust. For example in NA natural immunity is a bad word, never spoken because the main goal is to vaccinate. Here we have vaccine passports and in many other countries they accept natural immunity as part of their passport, not here. Never mind the reason to vaccinate is to create antibodies along with T cells and B cells. Antibodies will always wane simply because that's what the body does to avoid the blood from thickening and causing problems further downstream. this isn't anything new and boosters was always in their program from the get go. The T cells and the B cells are the back up for immunity and can last for years, decades and for life depending on the particular disease that it's attached to. Yes a booster will add a little extra protection immediately that T cells might not but we're splitting hairs here. does it justify boosting everyone that's old enough to crawl, many don't think so. It's just frustrating that you really can't trust anything that comes out of the CDC, FDA or gov't. People are frustrated with the baby talk, the simple lets keep doing what we're doing and getting the same results. Hopefully omicron puts an end to it once and for all.
Maybe news coverage is better in the UK. I've seen the point made about T and B cells made several times here, by virologists on TV news programmes.
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Can we have links to your sources please.
An excellent article. I also read a number of the related articles on the same website.
Just to explain it further...think of those quiet summer nights...peaceful...outside...in the middle of nowhere...all you'll hear are the crickets, and the saying alludes to that "it's so quiet, all I could hear were the crickets" feeling.
Now I've said crickets so much, the word is making me giggle! Crickets!
garlichead
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Just a news feed that I read this morning. I used my browser with the quotes and got this.
Pfizer says 3 shots neutralize omicron variant in early findings
Pfizer CEO says fourth Covid vaccine doses may be needed sooner than expected due to omicron
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i wish the crickets around here were quiet.
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Boris tells us that he has been repeatedly assured that there wasn't a party at No. 10 last year. I assume he was assured of this by his director of communications whose job is to brief the PM on the tone to take. This is the same director of communications who we all now know was at the party (that didn't happen) and was handing out prizes.
Boris now refuses to comment on this because one of his chums is investigating whether the party took place and it would be inappropriate to say anything.
Four year olds make more convincing liars.
garlichead
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I'm not sure if many here know who John Ioannidis is. John is probably the most respected evidence based medicine, epidemiologist and clinical researcher in the world and he talks with Dr. Vinay Prasad about omicron and covid in general. It's long and somewhat technical, but very interesting nevertheless.
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Folks today were discussing one of our colleagues who refuses to have vaccines despite his wife contracting covid and being very ill in hospital for quite a long time, he is always saying how much he loves his baby daughter, she is his world, yet he doesn't protect her by not being vaccinated. I pointed out that it is his right to refuse, which is true, we all have the right to refuse, they then grumped at me but, his body, his choice whether you agree with his decision or not.
I guess it's a trade off. Old homes have character and and nostalgia. New homes may lack that, but have insulation, efficient heating, and double pane windows.
CD
The saying here in the US is not that the crickets are silent, but that people are. Example, you ask a group of people a question, and nobody answers -- that's "crickets." The inference is all you are hearing in response is "crickets."
CD
I hope our Michigan members are taking extra precautions. There is a big surge going on there. Record death numbers in some hospitals (all either unvaccinated, or insufficiently vaccinated). One hospital is losing 7 patients a day!
Covid-19 patients at this hospital are dying 'at a rate we've never seen die before' -- and it's taking a toll on health care workers
CD
Covid-19 patients at this hospital are dying 'at a rate we've never seen die before' -- and it's taking a toll on health care workers
CD
I used to laugh at this frequent Norm Abram saying on "This Old House," usually spoken after tearing into the structure of some house from 1790 or so: "They sure don't build 'em like they used to...thank god!"
