The CookingBites recipe challenge: mustard

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Morning Glory said:
OK. I was hoping pickled lemons, capers and chillies and walnuts might be included as they are favourites of mine. Personally I am going to struggle with this as most pickled vegetables here would be home made. Apart from pickled cucumber (dill pickle or gherkins, that is), which I assume is included (although not technically a vegetable!).
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Yeah, well if cucumbers (fruit) are acceptable, then why not capers and chilis?
 
Morning Glory said:
OK. I was hoping pickled lemons, capers and chillies and walnuts might be included as they are favourites of mine. Personally I am going to struggle with this as most pickled vegetables here would be home made. Apart from pickled cucumber (dill pickle or gherkins, that is), and which I assume is included (although not technically a vegetable!). Picled onions are easily available here though.
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Cucumbers/gherkins are absolutely included. (I thought they were considered a vegetable…now I’m getting myself into trouble!). Pickled onions are absolutely also included.
 
Morning Glory said:
Pickle in the UK has a split personality as I think @karadekoolaid will confirm.
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Congrats, Herbaceous ! Well done indeed!
Even though I don't eat steak, that recipe looked delicious and was beautifully plated.
So pickles. Since I've spent the last 25 years pickling everything in sight :laugh: I'll just add my experience.
In the UK, you have these delicious condiments which are a mixture of fruit, vegetables, vinegar and sugar. Branston pickle comes to mind; farmhouse and Xmas pickles as well. There are also straightforward pickles (in vinegar) such as onions, eggs, red cabbage, beetroot and walnuts.Then there are chutneys which, although originally from India, morphed into a standard English condiment (Cheese and chutney sandwiches for High Tea?).
Indian pickles, however, (achaar) are fiercely hot, salty and often acidic, as in Lime or Gooseberry pickle. Totally different technique, but the end result is the same; to add a touch of je ne sais quoi to a plated dish.
Middle and Eastern European pickles were obviously designed to preserve fresh , summer ingredients for the winter. Gherkins/cucumbers/cauliflower/mushrooms/turnips - all available, pickled for the winter, often in brine.
Middle Eastern pickles are usually preserved in brine and often include root vegetables or cucumbers.
East Asian pickles are, in a certain sense, quite the opposite of their European counterparts, since they're frequently "quick-pickled"; although things like Chinese preserved vegetables are also pickles.
I'm not sure, but I believe there are pickled meats in the USA.
Purely from a practical point of view - do you want to include (a) chutney (b) Indian pickles (c) pickled meat in the challenge? Totally up to you!
 
karadekoolaid said:
Purely from a practical point of view - do you want to include (a) chutney (b) Indian pickles (c) pickled meat in the challenge? Totally up to you!
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She wants vegetables. No meat.
Herbaceous said:
I think I would like to keep this to pickled vegetables, if that’s alright. I wasn’t familiar with the dual meaning in the UK and specifically had pickled vegetables in mind when thinking of this challenge.
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JAS_OH1 said:
I know. But cucumbers, botanically, are also a fruit.
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Complex, isn't it? I suppose we have to be practical here, and think that cucumbers, and tomatoes, are generally treated as vegetables.
(Did you know a banana is, botanically speaking, a herb? :hyper: :hyper: :D :D )
 
It seems that I’ve gotten myself into a bit of a pickle while trying to define “pickle”!

To avoid confusion, let’s simplify it - ANY type of pickle is now acceptable. PICKLE ALL THE THINGS!!!!!

I will warn ahead of time thay any entry for pickled pigs’ feet is unlikely to win.
 
karadekoolaid said:
I suppose we have to be practical here, and think that cucumbers, and tomatoes, are generally treated as vegetables.
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Exactly - culinarily, they’re treated as vegetables, so that’s how they get dealt with on a cooking forum.
 
Herbaceous said:
It seems that I’ve gotten myself into a bit of a pickle while trying to define “pickle”!
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Not at all!
That's part of the fun of these challenges; they broaden our horizons!
Reminds me of a stupid joke from my youth:
"And the Lord said : "Let there be light!"
and there was light - you could see for bloody miles!!!
 
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